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randomsome1 (randomsome1) wrote,
@ 2008-08-04 20:02:00

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Re: Breaking Dawn
I've never seen a fandom implode like this.

There's so much rage at the amazon.com forums, so much froth across the internet, so many (possibly NWS) m a c r o s and lists and sparkly text blocks and lulz at ohnotheydidnt, mmmcradle, and however many other places. Hell, professional reviewers like Publishers Weekly and The Washington Post are even taking giant bites out of it. There's also a movement starting for people to return their copy of Breaking Dawn if they hated it.

Seriously, yes, it is that bad. (I have links for downloading if you wanna see. It's terribly edited & terribly paced & terribly worded & terribly plotted in such a way that it almost makes the earlier works look good.)

But y'know, for the trash-talking SMeyer did on Rowling for taking so long with her books . . . Epic. Pwnt.

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purplepopple
2008-08-05 01:40 am UTC (link)

You know, does it make me a bad person if I admit that poorly written or not, I enjoyed the last book? I know it wasn't well written but it reminded me angsty fan fiction meets romance novel meets Christian fiction and for what it was, I enjoyed it. And then after sitting back and thinking about it, I enjoyed the cracktastic parts all the more for the lulz at the absurdity of it even as I enjoyed that on my first pass at the book.

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randomsome1
2008-08-05 01:52 am UTC (link)

At least you're recognizing that it's not the epitome of perfection. For all intents and purposes, though, it's still sloppy wish-fulfillment Mary Sue fanfic in print.

I like Gideon Defoe for his absurd lulz in print but he never tried to pretend those were anything but, which is the kicker for me as this woman's being put up to be the "next JKRowling, omg!" Like fuck she is.

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	purplepopple 2008-08-05 02:06 am UTC (link)
	I never claimed to have taste. And yeah, soppy wish-fulfillment... but time and place for that. And after a stressful week, it was a lot better to kick back to that than the book I'm reading on Zhou Enlai. :) Er. You know, JKR wasn't all that great of an author too right? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	randomsome1 2008-08-05 02:12 am UTC (link)
	JKR's got her share of narrative problems but is still epically, exponentially better than this. Heh, my soppy wish-fulfillment has more than a healthy dose of pro-woman, pro-individuality, pro-free-will. SMeyer . . . Not so much. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	purplepopple 2008-08-05 02:44 am UTC (link)
	Part of me goes: Meyer's Mormon. What do you expect? I do like the fact that Meyer's work isn't masquerading as high literature which HP fans tried to do with JKR's work. And I guess, that ends what I can defend of it because that's about it. I like my occasional not good stuff. :( (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	randomsome1 2008-08-05 02:45 am UTC (link)
	Some people tried to make high literature out of it, though. At least you're not. ~~I might have to hunt you down.~~ :D (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	purplepopple 2008-08-05 02:53 am UTC (link)
	twitches How can people do that? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

randomsome1
2008-08-05 03:04 am UTC (link)

Confusing overwrought teen emotion for quality? I saw it go down a few times in high school with a number of friends who got engaged & promptly . . . well, disengaged.

Teen emotion is some crazy stuff. (I wouldn't wish it on anyone.) The cycles of angst/insecurity/I hate you don't leave me, though . . . It's being held up as the be-all-end-all from so many directions, there's no wonder so many people are so fucked up with their relationships & the divorce rate is so high.

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	hzlgrl204 2008-08-05 10:48 pm UTC (link)
	blinks Engaged?! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

randomsome1
2008-08-06 03:01 am UTC (link)

Yeah, there was one set sophomore year who swore they'd be together forever and had all the rings and whatnot and then the guy went off one weekend and nailed a freshman. One girl in my grade was engaged no less than four times, once to the guy who date-raped her. Two of my best friends? Engaged. Had moderately expensive rings. One got knocked up and then got left, senior year. The other got left, tried to lure him back with sex, and got knocked up--senior year. And as icing, the latter's guy had a sister, sixteen years old, who got engaged to a forty-something guy, actually went through with the wedding once she was old enough for parental consent . . . and got divorced less than three years later. Which is reminiscent of the girl a year ahead of me who got engaged to a thirty-something guy from the next county over who'd gotten in trouble a number of times for kiddie porn.

Me, I missed out on getting engaged--though the guy I'd crushed on all through high school later decided he really really liked me and proposed via email when I was in college. By that time I'd lost my rose-tinted glasses and I told him I'd rather kill him. I never was good at being nice.

My experience watching true-life teen "love" stories unfold, let me tell you about it.

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	hzlgrl204 2008-08-06 03:14 am UTC (link)
	blinks again "..." (<<<this is rare) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	randomsome1 2008-08-06 03:44 am UTC (link)
	It is? D: (Reply to this) (Parent)

	wingedrivers 2008-08-05 06:34 am UTC (link)
	XDXD EVEN THE COLLECTOR'S EDITION IS RIGHT UNDER SMEYER'S BOOK!! OMG this news makes me soooo incredibly happy. Actually, now that I think about it, someone bought one of her books from us today. And we NEVER get her in. I'm gonna have to wonder if suddenly we'll get a slew of her books... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	randomsome1 2008-08-05 12:26 pm UTC (link)
	Probably :D (Reply to this) (Parent)

	threeoranges 2008-08-05 08:12 am UTC (link)
	They only just noticed she can't write?... MAN. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	randomsome1 2008-08-05 12:23 pm UTC (link)
	I know! Imagine how epic the epic fail must be for her own srs bzns fans (The Twilight Moms! The Twilight Moms even have people saying they hate it!) to turn on the writing. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2008-08-05 11:37 am UTC (link)
	You should check out the Breaking Dawn: The Musical thread going on at Amazon. So funny. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	randomsome1 2008-08-05 12:02 pm UTC (link)
	I wanna find the Breaking Batman page. I saw chunks of it all over ONTD and it looks like a thing of shriekingly hilarious WTF. (Reply to this) (Parent)

hzlgrl204
2008-08-05 10:58 pm UTC (link)

Meh, what about those linkies? I really want to read the book... but I don't want to waste my time. If I buy it, I'll just wind up returning it anyway.

Other than that I'm pretty much speechless- and highly amused. School starts next week, and I can't wait to see how this manifests itself there. The past year, there's been small fangirlings over these books all around... ugh, highschool... I want out! *book!slaps them all*

But anyway, I'm guessing there are going to be a lot of enraged fangirls. And one fanboy (*cough* my ex). Though he may like it... @_@

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	sirena_lune 2008-08-06 03:29 am UTC (link)
	I have Breaking Dawn on .pdf if you really want to read it. I heard it might make your brain melt, though. ;D (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	randomsome1 2008-08-06 03:31 am UTC (link)
	It melted my brain. D: D: (Reply to this) (Parent)

	hzlgrl204 2008-08-06 06:11 am UTC (link)
	Thanks (to both of you). Yes, I'm anticipating that sigh. But after those spoilers, I can't not read it. Its the same kind of appeal a car wreck holds: horror and curiosity. So thanks! ^+^ (Reply to this) (Parent)

	randomsome1 2008-08-06 03:31 am UTC (link)
	If you're on Lj, add mmmcradle and go a page or so back. There's a bunch of links up. Or try the link Sirena posted. :P (Reply to this) (Parent)

korinacaffeine
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2008-08-06 01:36 am UTC (link)

Meyer just whizzed through these things, didn't she? It doesn't feel like she took her time at all. It's taken me longer to finish one 30-chapter fic than for her to complete her shitty series.

I think it's safe to say that a lot of FANFICTION authors--not necessarily me, mind--write a hell of a lot better than her. It's fine to let your beliefs show through in your own fantasy/fiction novel, but when said beliefs are overpowering the entire book, making it feel like some sort of shallow wish-fulfillment? Not so fine.

And for the record, Rowling >>> Meyer, and I don't even like the Harry Potter series. ;)

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	Re: korinacaffeine randomsome1 2008-08-06 02:48 am UTC (link)
	Wordy McWord word word. Quality, quantity, avoiding being anvillicious, all that good stuff. :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2008-08-06 04:29 am UTC (link)
	Meyer insulted Rowling? I guess I shouldn't be surprised. This is the same woman who claimed to have come up with a better romantic hero than Emily Bronte, Charlotte Bronte, Jane Austen, L. M. Montgomery, and Shakespeare. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	randomsome1 2008-08-06 04:40 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, she also believes Romeo & Juliet is a love story. Yet more proof that a BA in English means absolute shit. (Reply to this) (Parent)

fail

feste
2008-08-07 03:40 pm UTC (link)

This is totally delayed, but I offer "being out of the country" as my excuse.

So I just finished reading this...thing...I wasn't expecting anything good by a long shot but holy hell. What I want to know is why has no one lambasted her editor yet? You could very easily have dropped about 300 pages out of the middle of the blasted thing and the book will still have had the same effect ~~(of making 12 year old girls squee and try to get their 'boyfriends' to screw them)~~. In all honesty, the only reason I'm probably not more offended by this mess is that at least the writing is better than James Patterson's Maximum Ride series. That thing has plot holes so big I could shove my overweight basset hound through them. *shudder Please someone tell me why we're pushing such craptastic writing off on children? They're never going to read again....that or Harlequin Romance is going to go through a boom in a few years.

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Re: fail

randomsome1
2008-08-07 04:29 pm UTC (link)

I'd like to say I don't know, but I do: it's about money. The faster the publishers can push out some half-assed (insert dozen unkind descriptors here) book, the faster they get paid. In this case it led to overall shit. (Because seriously, she's had how many books come out in how short a time frame? Could anyone really truly expect quality?) If this was one book it'd be one thing, but it's the entire section. It's shit. The YA shelves are pretty much a laughingstock at our store. Then we get authors like Tamora Pierce who don't get why people don't respect the YA genre.

But if it means anything, one of the movements the internet is trying to start (aside from the "Don't Burn It, Return It!" one) is "Where the fuck was the editor/copyeditor?" We need more movements like this--maybe, if enough people are really loud, TPTB will take notice.

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Re: fail

feste
2008-08-07 10:16 pm UTC (link)

That would be frikkin fantastic...just because someone needs to burn for this atrocity O:) I could be optimistic and hope that this would actually influence the publishing industry and make them pay some freaking attention to what they're putting out but I'm a cynic and I have a brain so I know it won't. I think I'll just sit back and continue to watch the wank explode while reading Channel Zero. :p

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	Re: fail randomsome1 2008-08-08 02:03 am UTC (link)
	It'd have to be a lot of people taking books back. The movement would have to be less show and more epic. If my store gets even ten back, that's no big deal--because they've already sold a few hundred. I don't think there's that many pissed-off people watching amazon. The letter-writing campaign, though . . . That's a bit more of an immediate approach. (Reply to this) (Parent)